Notice anything odd about this auction for a Robo Force figure that ended last week? That's not Cruel! It's Tiltor, one of the thought-to-be-unreleased 1985 Robo Force figures! And the Buy-It-Now was only $25! On an upcoming Roboplastic Podcastalypse I'll have an interview with the guy who bought it!
Wednesday, May 09, 2012
Hello Cruel world!
Notice anything odd about this auction for a Robo Force figure that ended last week? That's not Cruel! It's Tiltor, one of the thought-to-be-unreleased 1985 Robo Force figures! And the Buy-It-Now was only $25! On an upcoming Roboplastic Podcastalypse I'll have an interview with the guy who bought it!
Monday, March 26, 2012
In the Business of Drawing Giants

The 42nd seal of the Roboplastic Apocalypse is smooshed like a cartoon baby unicorn under the foot of a 2,000 foot tall iron golem in part two of my interview with American storyboard artist Wendell Washer! Yes it's more dungeoney and/or dragonny than an enchanted amusement park ride to 1985 as Mr. Washer takes us on a whirlwind tour of his career in the animation industry from the early 70s to the late 80s. What's the difference between a storyboard artist and a storyboard director? Is it possible to draw too good for Filmation? What's the right way to say Toei anyways? Find out all that and more in this PIE ON THE FLOOR FUNNY episode of the podcastalypse!
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Cartoons mentioned in this episode:
| Hoppity Goes to Town | Beauty and the Bogbeast |
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SHOW NOTES OF THE PODCASTALYPSE
- The unique job title of storyboard director (and why everybody had it)
- Finding gold in a gremlin tree plus good tips on forgetting where it was.
- Filmation keeping everything in house
- Spock looked so different without his ears!
- The seasonal work of saturday morning cartoons
- Being an animation fan going to film festivals
- Joining ASIFA Hollywood
- June Foray's part in founding ASIFA Hollywood and the Annie Awards
- How multiple storyboard artists worked on a series
- Staying on model at Filmation
- Why Amby Paliwoda got a scene in Peter Pan rejected
- The very first Fat Albert special
- Don Bluth freelancing layout on Fat Albert
- Glen Keane's troubles with horses
- Difficulties initially getting hired at Disney
- Disney's traditional family (and employee) values
- Jack Ozark's legendary quickness
- How to say Toei
- The logistics of working on joint US/Japanese production cartoons like Dungeons and Dragons and Transformers
- Storyboarding the iron golem scene in the Dungeons & Dragons' episode Beauty and the Bogbeast
- The reasons storyboards were done in the US on joint cartoons
- Jack Kirby meets his future son at the Cortez hotel during San Diego Comic Con
- A gift from Osamu Tezuka
- The Astro Boy Ultra DVD box sets at RightStuff.com
- Fred Ladd's gigantoric birthday present this year
- A career according to IMDB
- Getting hired by Don Christensen as a layout artist on Filmation's Fat Albert
- Working at Hanna-Barbera in the early 80s
- Who's WendAll Washer?
- It's a new job, true believers!
- The problem with gang credits
- Standards and Practices and Yogi Bear pie fights
- John Kricfalusi essentially getting Beany & Cecil cancelled on principal
- Goofing on standards & practices
- The Marvel Productions' Van Nuys warehouse fire
- Voice acting on Ralph Bakshi's Mighty Mouse The New Adventures
- Carl Barks' Uncle Scrooge Comics influencing George Lucas' work in Indiana Jones
- Duck Tales Robot Robbers
- Other great board artists like Thom Enriquez and Bob Kline
- Making connections in the animation industry
- WendellWasher.com
- Upcoming projects and ideas
- Oh how hellacious these show notes will be
- Storyboards section at WendellWasher.com including boards from an episode of G.I. Joe, Transformers and the Duck Tales episode Scrooge's Last Adventure
- Beauty and the Bogbeast at Branded in the 80s
- Glen Keane leaving Disney
- AWO's interview with Noboru Ishiguro, recently deceased director of Macross and Space Battleship Yamato
- Don't rocket punch your friends!

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Friday, March 23, 2012
Charting the ancient archived analog adventures of once high tech animated mechanical defenders
Okay so the big news (to me) today is that Google has a massive archive of Billboard magazine going back for decades. I've been looking through it and it's an absolute treasure trove of information.
The most exciting development is that I've found Billboard sales charts for VHS releases during the mid 80s boom of licensed character cartoons. Around late '85 they went from just bunching all VHS sales together on their charts to doing a separate chart for children's video titles. This means the popularity of the VHS releases of many kids' cartoons from the Toy Robots Wars of the 1980s can be tracked, which is something I've always wanted to do ever since I did a series of blog posts tracing the Nielsen ratings of kids' shows in Variety magazine. I also found a handful of cool robot related ads announcing the release of a couple of now classic VHS tapes featuring some of my favorite shows. Check them out!
IN THE TRADITION OF STAR WARS...(THE STAR WARS WITH BIG ROBOT SPACE LIONS)
This Voltron ad is from the March 9, 1985 issue.
Voltron, the videocassette. Wanted-By millions of kids.
Introducing the first in a series of specially edited, feature film length videocassettes from Sony created from the sensational, number one children's television success story of the year: Voltron, Defender of the Universe.
Every day, three million American kids, ages two to thirteen, see a richly animated story of epic struggles between the forces of good and forces of doom; an adventure in the tradition of Star Wars that has even rages into toy stores where Voltron toys are regularly selling out.
Now Sony brings this spectacularly popular force to your customers with a ninety-minute feature presentation: Voltron: Defender of the Universe in the Castle of Lions. And Sony brings you a hard-hitting national advertising and merchandising campaign with display contests, in-store support and more. Call your authorized Sony Video Software distributor today for details.
Voltron, Defender of the Universe. The first adventure in a series of Voltron videocassettes from Sony Video Software.
Beta / VHS SONY
It's interesting to me that this ad points out the Voltron audience extended to kids all the way up to thirteen years old, and that 3 million of them tuned in to the show every day.
BWOOOOOOOONG BWAAAAAAAAAAANG BWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!
The first two Transformers VHS releases were hyped in this ad from Billboard's May 25, 1985 issue.
THE TRANSFORMERS ON VIDEOCASSETTE
Available for the first time two fully animated adventures featuring the phenomenal TRANSFORMERS.
MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
THE ULTIMATE DOOM
Both videocassettes at your local retailer now! $24.95 suggested list price.
f.h.e. Family Home Entertainment
This ad is really cool because I think it's only the second F.H.E. promo I've ever found outside of comic books. (The other one was a Sunday newspaper comic strip advertising supplement that ran October 20, 1985.) What is a bit perplexing to me is that the Billboard ad was published in the May 25th issue but other sources I've read say the Transformer videocassettes didn't hit retail until June of 1985. It could be that since the issue was expected to run in late May it wasn't too big of a deal that it jumped the gun on the release date. Heck, the videos may have been in the stores already by late May. For whatever reason the Transformers VHS tapes didn't start showing up in the Billboard charts until August 24 so I'm not certain of their exact release date.
THE BEST SUPER ROBOT JOB DESCRIPTION IS ONLY ONE GOOD P.R. MAN AWAY
Here's more Voltron promotion, this time from the July 20, 1985 issue.
Earth to Voltron: Help!
Send more videocassettes.
His popularity is accelerating as quickly as a Mega Thruster. Everyday, three million plus kids, ages two to thirteen, rush home to watch the mighty Voltron Force that sweeps America everyday!
Voltron, Defender of the Universe. Phenomenal toy sales. Number one children's TV show and videocassette.
You've already seen the extraordinary action of the first Voltron release! Now Sony presents the second in a series of specially edited, ninety-minute Voltron videocassette features: Planet Doom.
A richly animated story of epic struggles between forces of good and forces of evil. A video galaxy alliance for every VCR home.
And Sony supports you with a national advertising and merchandising campaign which includes display contests and in-store promotions. Call your authorized Sony Video Software distributor for details.
Voltron to dealers: Next stop, the stars.
One thing that really impresses me about Voltron is how much press he got in trade magazines. There's the two full color, full page ads in Billboard shown here and also a ton of ads in the entertainment industry trade publication Variety. All of them mention how strong the cartoon was but this one goes a little overboard with the hyperbole. (Who were all these two year olds that were running home to watch Voltron?) A galaxy alliance for every VCR home? I think that's Voltron's way of letting you know the likelihood of your family being eaten by Robeasts was inversely proportional to the number of Voltron VHS tapes you owned.

Unfortunately I can't make out much of the text of this ad from the June 21, 1986 issue. But I can tell it's advertising the first five volumes of Challenge of the GoBots. I'll get to work on deciphering it later.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE COUNTDOWN?
I'm pretty excited about all this and am right now planning a future podcastalypse about these old VHS tapes and how well they sold relative to each other. But if you don't want to wait for my analysis, go check the lists out at Google's Billboard archive right away!
IN THE TRADITION OF STAR WARS...(THE STAR WARS WITH BIG ROBOT SPACE LIONS)
This Voltron ad is from the March 9, 1985 issue.Voltron, the videocassette. Wanted-By millions of kids.
Introducing the first in a series of specially edited, feature film length videocassettes from Sony created from the sensational, number one children's television success story of the year: Voltron, Defender of the Universe.
Every day, three million American kids, ages two to thirteen, see a richly animated story of epic struggles between the forces of good and forces of doom; an adventure in the tradition of Star Wars that has even rages into toy stores where Voltron toys are regularly selling out.
Now Sony brings this spectacularly popular force to your customers with a ninety-minute feature presentation: Voltron: Defender of the Universe in the Castle of Lions. And Sony brings you a hard-hitting national advertising and merchandising campaign with display contests, in-store support and more. Call your authorized Sony Video Software distributor today for details.
Voltron, Defender of the Universe. The first adventure in a series of Voltron videocassettes from Sony Video Software.
Beta / VHS SONY
It's interesting to me that this ad points out the Voltron audience extended to kids all the way up to thirteen years old, and that 3 million of them tuned in to the show every day.
BWOOOOOOOONG BWAAAAAAAAAAANG BWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!
The first two Transformers VHS releases were hyped in this ad from Billboard's May 25, 1985 issue.THE TRANSFORMERS ON VIDEOCASSETTE
Available for the first time two fully animated adventures featuring the phenomenal TRANSFORMERS.
MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
THE ULTIMATE DOOM
Both videocassettes at your local retailer now! $24.95 suggested list price.
f.h.e. Family Home Entertainment
This ad is really cool because I think it's only the second F.H.E. promo I've ever found outside of comic books. (The other one was a Sunday newspaper comic strip advertising supplement that ran October 20, 1985.) What is a bit perplexing to me is that the Billboard ad was published in the May 25th issue but other sources I've read say the Transformer videocassettes didn't hit retail until June of 1985. It could be that since the issue was expected to run in late May it wasn't too big of a deal that it jumped the gun on the release date. Heck, the videos may have been in the stores already by late May. For whatever reason the Transformers VHS tapes didn't start showing up in the Billboard charts until August 24 so I'm not certain of their exact release date.
THE BEST SUPER ROBOT JOB DESCRIPTION IS ONLY ONE GOOD P.R. MAN AWAY
Here's more Voltron promotion, this time from the July 20, 1985 issue.Earth to Voltron: Help!
Send more videocassettes.
His popularity is accelerating as quickly as a Mega Thruster. Everyday, three million plus kids, ages two to thirteen, rush home to watch the mighty Voltron Force that sweeps America everyday!
Voltron, Defender of the Universe. Phenomenal toy sales. Number one children's TV show and videocassette.
You've already seen the extraordinary action of the first Voltron release! Now Sony presents the second in a series of specially edited, ninety-minute Voltron videocassette features: Planet Doom.
A richly animated story of epic struggles between forces of good and forces of evil. A video galaxy alliance for every VCR home.
And Sony supports you with a national advertising and merchandising campaign which includes display contests and in-store promotions. Call your authorized Sony Video Software distributor for details.
Voltron to dealers: Next stop, the stars.
One thing that really impresses me about Voltron is how much press he got in trade magazines. There's the two full color, full page ads in Billboard shown here and also a ton of ads in the entertainment industry trade publication Variety. All of them mention how strong the cartoon was but this one goes a little overboard with the hyperbole. (Who were all these two year olds that were running home to watch Voltron?) A galaxy alliance for every VCR home? I think that's Voltron's way of letting you know the likelihood of your family being eaten by Robeasts was inversely proportional to the number of Voltron VHS tapes you owned.

Unfortunately I can't make out much of the text of this ad from the June 21, 1986 issue. But I can tell it's advertising the first five volumes of Challenge of the GoBots. I'll get to work on deciphering it later.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE COUNTDOWN?
I'm pretty excited about all this and am right now planning a future podcastalypse about these old VHS tapes and how well they sold relative to each other. But if you don't want to wait for my analysis, go check the lists out at Google's Billboard archive right away!
Sunday, March 18, 2012
Drawings on inspiration, words on imagination and other adventures at 24 frames per second (with Wendell Washer!)

Veteran storyboard artist and special guest Wendell Washer cracks the 41st seal of the Roboplastic Apocalypse! Yes it's the first part of a two episode interview with a man who had a hand in creating many of the most memorable shows and scenes from the animated shows I grew up watching! From Filmation to Hanna Barbera to Marvel and beyond, Mr. Washer worked as a storyboard artist at many of the great American animation studios of the 70s, 80s and 90s. He shares in this episode the early beginnings of his career and what it was like to grow up a fan of cartoons while pursuing an education that had him headed entirely in another direction. How did a science major aspiring to be a nuclear physicist from Chicago end up working in animation in Hollywood? What Donald Duck short was the first cartoon that inspired him? Who would win in a fight between Gigantor and Optimus Prime? Find out all that and more in this I'M 99% HYSTERICAL edition of the podcastalypse!
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SHOW NOTES OF THE PODCASTALYPSE
- Goodbye Ralph McQuarrie
- Podcast credibility letting me interview great people
- WendellWasher.com
- Interview with Wendell Washer (part 1)
- Growing up in Chicago near the Museum of Science and Industry
- The anthropomorphic alphabet stylings of Mrs. Washer
- Being the son of a lithographer who did patent drawings
Hanging out with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company - Getting to meet Martyn Green, Danny Kaye, Phil Silvers, Rose Marie, Mary Martin and others
- Watching Donald's Garden (Disney 1942) for the first time in parochial school
- Tips from Preston Blair's book Advanced Animation
- Why nearsightedness affects ones' appreciation of Kung Fu Panda
- Having natural talent takes a lot of work
- Barbra Walters' rocket to Schenectady
- How did they ever make cartoons before computers?
- The Buck Rogers school of science appreciation
- Having a head for science but a heart for animation
- The disadvantages of dc power (and how square roots can help)
- Tesla & Westinghouse lighting up Chicago
- An abundance of inspiration may overcome much of the need to perspire
- Nikolai Tesla being abducted by incompetent aliens
- Geniuses in history tapping the ultimate potential of the human mind
- Degrading the earth's environment degrades our human potential
- The future of animation is the holodeck
- Appreciating life at 60 frames per second
- The rise of video game reflexes
- Losing the ability to be fooled by illusions
- Being sad that my kid will not be as dumb as me
- Average man uses more of his brain (10%) than he does of his Adobe Photoshop (1%)
- The railroad was the internet of yesteryear
- The Union Pacific Big Boy
- What it really means to be more powerful than a locomotive
- Mickey Mouse was topical and also Plane Crazy
- Finding a place for things that aren't 60 fps
- The birth of Xerox and the end of lithography
- HEY HEY HEY-Starting out at Filmation in 1972 with Fat Albert
- Springtime for Gigantor
- I'm hysterical, I'm wet, and I owe Mel Brooks another movie admission fee
- Am I taking Chemistry or German?
- Watching Getter Robo G, Yuusha Raideen, UFO Warrior Dia Apolon, and others on KWHY in Los Angeles
- It's the Dorohms!
- The Cartoon / Fantasy Organization's early days as the Astro Boy / Kimba Club. (Expanded upon here by Fred Patten)
- A great character moment at the end of Spirited Away's English dub that's not in the Japanese version
- The draw of storyboarding
- Doing a storyboard is as close as you can get to doing an entire cartoon by yourself
- Storyboarding the Tom & Jerry episode School for Cats
- Spike the bulldog drill sergeant and his uncanny resemblance to a mascot painted on the wall of the army latrine at basic training
- To be continued…

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Sunday, February 26, 2012
RETURN TO THE PLANET OF THE RETRO ROBO PLANET PEOPLE (and other 11th dimensional unicorn conspiracies)

Special guest super villain Jack Fields destroys the 40th seal of the Roboplastic Apocalypse wearing only a speedo, go-go boots and a gold lamé shirt! Thrill in vinyl fury as Jack and the Nostrodomatron do an hour long recap of their epic life-or-death battle across several dimensions, a storage locker in Florida, multiple planes of existence and a Hooters restaurant all last Saturday at Robot Japan Summit 2012! What secrets lie buried within the mysterious and terrifying toy robot collection of Ed, our host with the alluring smile? Which religion lets you take your toy robots with you to hell? If you could fight one of Ed's toy collection cabinets which one would you fight? Find out all that and more in this HONK IF YOU LOVE GARAGES, GODAIKINS, AND GAZONGAS edition of the podcastalypse!
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Between the Planet Retro Gallery and Ed's house I have never seen so many robots in so few garages.
Professional artist Robby Musso's work was stunning as usual. That's my favorite Carly ever and this year's RJ poster was great, too.
Summit organizer Ed demonstrates how before global Starcraft domination, South Korea's greatest accomplishment was a green teapot head robot show guy.
TO SUMMIT ALL UP...
I want to thank everyone at Robot-Japan for making the Summit a great time, from Jonathan who gave the heads up about Planet Retro on the Robot-Japan Facebook page to Myles for reminding me the Summit was coming up in the first place. Of course Ed thank you and your family for opening up your home and letting me charge my computer and camera while I was there. And of course thanks to Jack for helping me do this show. Thanks to everyone who bought some stuff from me, too! Also thanks to Robby Musso for talking robots, Botcon, Transformers and black repaints with me. You guys all made the trip up to St. Petersburg really awesome.
SHOW NOTES OF THE PODCASTALYPSE
- Grab your TechSpecTesticles
- The fourth or worse guest host introduction
- happymemories.org
- The Shogunian Murderlizord
- Thomas Edison in the 11th dimension
- The tyrannical douchebaggery of 11th dimensional unicorns
- The Planet Retro Gallery gallery at the Robofacial Bookocalypse
- Doing business in storage lockers is hot
- Robot-Japan Summit 2012
- My responsibilities as the nostrodomatron (and my not living up to them)
- HotDog-Japan Summit 2013 coming soon
- The magical world of Ed's house's secret location
- Official Robot-Japan Summit 2012 pictures gallery at Robot-Japan
- Ed's toy robots are more magical than friendship
- The weirder side of Ed's collection-Pachinko BotStachio
- The Robot Japan Summit gallery at the Robofacial Bookocalypse
- Vinyl Bat Man from Kamen Rider aka Dracula in a speedo and go-go boots (Thanks Myles for the I.D.)
- Collecting strange macrocranian vinyl beasts and other kaijamba juices
- The gift that keeps on dooming
- Brian Powell's anime cell presentation at Robot-Japan Summit 2012
- Why people mistakenly think Thundercats was a good cartoon
- Real life tape player robot god Shinji Aramaki
- Hideaki Anno's plastic shopping bag cel painting technique
- post-Summit residual Princess Mononoke controversy stress disorder
- Robby Musso's fantastic renditions of Spike Witwicky girlfriends
- Carly, Juanita the convertible, and other competing Witwickyian love interests
- Eds crown jewel of super silly robo obscurity-Taekwon V
- COMPOBOY the transforming robot entertainment center
- Don Figueroa's Mecha Workshop project preview
- Ed's garage is the Cavern Club of toy robot project popularity
- Lunchtime Charlie's Transformer prototype collection
- Quick and dirty HASBRO JUSTICE
- Getting lost going in a straight line
- Hooters' hetero-homoerotic environment
- Ed helping me update my Chronology of Release of Shogun Warriors
- Thanks to everyone involved in Summit 2012 (and especially Satan)
- Don't Rocket Punch your friends!
Anyone recognize this robot?

That's some Hot Wheels rampy grade paper alright!

That's some Hot Wheels rampy grade paper alright!
Sunday, February 19, 2012
ALIGNMENT OF THE RETRO ROBO PLANET PEOPLE PART 1: This is the planet I wish I was from
This weekend saw not one but TWO St. Petersburgian events of great interest to toy robots historians and other retro roboplastic enthusiasts. Yes the Planet Retro Gallery was open for business Saturday and Robot Japan Summit 2012 was happening not very far away. Planet Retro is an interesting hybrid of action figure store and vinyl record shop with a retro focus in both areas. Robot Japan is of course an interesting robot themed website also with a focus on vintage action figures, but of the Japanese robot variety. The summit only happens once a year and Planet Retro is only open for a few days every month so to have them both happen on the same day was like a planetary alignment of robotastic proportions. (And you don't have to be a Nostrodomatron to know nothing kicks off a roboplastic apocalypse like a good planetary alignment.) Here's some highlights of my trip to Planet Retro Gallery and the full dump of all the pics I took there is over at the Robofacial Bookocalypse.
SHOCK ME!
On the outside, Planet Retro Gallery looks like a store run from a storage locker unit but on the inside it's what I imagined heaven looked like when I was a teenager in the 80s. It's half full of vinyl records and the other half is loaded with toys from the 70s, 80s and 90s. I've never seen a record store combined with a vintage toy store before and I wonder why there aren't more like this because it makes so much sense. It's an awesome idea. When I was growing up I was always either into music or toys and this place is those two things combined. There's really no other place outside my own bedroom in 1989 that I've ever listened to Love Gun while playing with toy robots. All this place is missing is some posters from He-Man magazine on the walls and a dresser drawer full of Iron Maiden shirts and it'd be my bedroom circa 1988.
SPLITTING O'HARES
Ever since I got to talk to Michael Golden I've wanted an A.F.C. Blinky figure from Bucky O'Hare. Unbelievably, Planet Retro had not only Blinky but all the other Bucky O'Hare figures ever released. I didn't think the store owner would be willing to break up the set but he did. I almost regret not getting the rest of them but my goal in coming to St. Petersburg was to sell robots and not buy them. For someone who was trying to cut down on buying stuff I sure was in the wrong place. Still, I never in a million years thought I'd be staring a complete set of Bucky O'Hare in the face (or a Charlie Tuna, either).
GRENDIZER TEST-if you noticed the hula girl I've got some bad news for you...
IS THIS A DREAM OR IS IT NOW?
The selection of albums dominated the vinyl side of the store but there were a couple boxes of some great 45s. There were singles from Metallica, the Anti-Nowhere League, Madness, the Beatles, and all sorts of other British and American punk, metal and rock bands. There was even a single from the Banana Splits! It was great going through all those. The only thing Rob the owner didn't have was Whitney Houston. (I know because I asked)
JUST DuWITT!
Well there's a ton more pictures of the Retro Planet Gallery over at the Robofacial Bookocalypse. I still didn't get pics of everything but you can get a good idea of what it was like. I was impressed by the wide range of mainstream and lesser known items there in both vinyl and plastic. Seeing the gallery and getting myself a Blinky (and a Conky wind up from Pee-Wee's Playhouse for my son) was a highlight during my trip to St. Petersburg. It was a great lead-in to Robot Japan Summit 2012, which I will have pictures of later. The Gallery will open its doors again in two weeks on March 2nd and 3rd. If you go, tell Bucky O'Hare hi for me and have a great roboplastic apocalypse.
Sunday, February 05, 2012
I WANNA ROBOTIX ALL NIGHT (and RoboForce every day)

The 39th seal of the Roboplastic Apocalypse is erased from existence like the brain of your giant talking robot Tyrannosaurus bulldozer! Yes it's a Robotixciting edition of the Podcastalypse as guest co-host Colin from fairplaythings.com and I fire up the GoBackaTron 1984thousand to talk about the intriguing early years of the part robot, part action figure, part construction set toy line Robotix. Was the interfacing of humans and robots in Robotix the inspiration for the Transformers' Powermaster engines? Was Herb Trimpe the Bob Budiansky of Robotix? More importantly, is Paul Stanley the Stan Bush of Robo Force? Find out all this (or don't) in this I'M SO ROBOTIXCITED AND I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT edition of the podcastalypse!
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WITH ADS LIKE THESE WHO NEEDS MARK FURYS
Before I got on with the Robotix portion of the show I wanted to share a couple ads that support my theory that Robo Force wasn't immediately cancelled in 1985 but lived long enough that at least a few cases of the 1985 assortments depicted in the 1985 Ideal Toy Fair catalog made it out. So I spend a couple minutes on the show discussing the two ads below from a store called Dart Drug that use line art and descriptions of the "unreleased" 1985 Robo Force figure assortments. It would kind of help me out more if Dart didn't put a picture of bad guy Hun-Dred in its ad for the Heroic robots and do-gooder Maxx Steele in the ad for the Defiant robots. But hey if the supporting evidence were totally solid it wouldn't be a good conspiracy theory.
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WITHOUT COMMANDER X THIS SHOW WOULD HAVE NO PILOT
What happened with this show is I started recording it back in October during a bike ride to the comic shop near my house, on a hunt for Robotix #1. Snagging the book was a crucial part of my preparations for not only this episode but also for a convention I went to later that month. Although it was more of a Star Wars con, I was really excited about going and getting to meet one of the guests who also happened to be the artist/writer that worked on the Robotix comic book, Herb Trimpe. He rarely comes down south and although Texas is 1,300 lateral miles from my house, based on his appearance alone I bought tickets and went over there hoping to see him and maybe ask a couple questions about Robotix. The first 25 minutes of this show were recorded before I went to the convention when I was all hyped about the con. It was a time of high hopes which of course were dashed the first day of the convention when Mr. Trimpe couldn't make it because he missed his plane to Texas. Although I'd recorded 25 minutes of show, my enthusiasm for completing it alone waned. Then one day action figure customizer/toy robot blogger/giant Robotix fan Colin aka "Commander X" got in touch and said hey, let's do the Robotix show! So my huge thanks go out to him for rescuing this idea from the abyss of my hard drive and making my Robotix episode dream come true. Without his expertise and catalog page contributions this show may never have come out and definitely wouldn't have been as good.
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SUNBWNED!
What I find fascinating about Robotix is that it began as a construction set and stayed very true to that concept in its first year of release in 1984. The sets came packaged with G.I. Joe scale pilots in astronaut suits and no reference was made to the actual constructed machines as independent, sentient entities. Then with the 1985 release of the line the boxes get redesigned with dynamic painted artwork, the line gets a cartoon tie-in where a sci-fi fantasy adventure background is established, and the machines are all given character names. You can see how what began as a simple construction set idea got shoehorned into a more mainstream action figure line with the marketing of the day, even though the sets themselves weren't as action figure like as depicted on the show. Colin believes Robotix would have worked great as a crossover with G.I. Joe where the Robotix vehicles would have had Joe pilots. I wonder if this idea was ever considered by Hasbro/Bradley back in the day because it does seem like the Robotix vehicles would have made awesome bad guy monster machines for 3 3/4 inch figures.
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THEY JUST DON'T MAKE STEAM SHOVEL MOUTHED TYRANNOSAURUS ROBOTS LIKE THEY USED TO
Just last night I was in Toys R Us in the Transformer aisle when I overheard a lady ask a TRU employee if Transformers were the only robots they had. "These are all robots but they don't do anything. I need a robot that moves by itself." I watched as they both searched the action figure aisle for a couple minutes but I knew they wouldn't find anything. Robots just don't move by themselves these days. I went to the construction toys section to see if the concept of Robotix has survived in some form and I found one single solitary robot kit that I think was a Lego Technic set. It was kind of sad to see how the once vastly diverse selection of robots and robot based construction vehicles from the 80s has withered down to its current sad state where you can have any robot you want as long as its a Transformer. Transformers are great but long gone are the glory days of motorized walking robots like Trypticon, Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme. That poo
r lady was in the right aisle, but just the wrong decade. I say judge not a society's scientific and technological greatness on what they have put into outer space, but judge them by what they have put in their motorized robot toys aisle at Toys R Us.Maybe trying to market Robotix as a traditional action figure line wasn't exactly a perfect fit with what the product actually was but it sure was an interesting try. In 1985 sentient robots were all the rage. I can't blame them for trying to say each set was actually a robotic character. The problem is those astronauts the Robotix sets came with. It's hard to come up with a convincing argument for why a sentient robot needs a human pilot. We discuss that a little in the show. Should Robotix have been spun as a more G.I. Joe/Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors type concept or was it truly a GoBotty, Transformery one? We'll explore these ideas more thoroughly in the next Robotix themed Podcastalypse when Colin and I go over the Robotix cartoon.
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'TIX R US
Of course no Podcastalyptical look at a toyline is complete without some mention of what was going on in the newspaper ads of the day. I tend to describe Robotix as "obscure" a lot during the show because it seems that way in the lack of mainstream action figure fandom its garnered over the years. But back in the day Robotix was actually very prevalent as evidenced by all of the different stores that ran ads for it. Robotix ads could be found in the circulars for the big toy discounters like Toys R Us, Children's Palace, and Lionel Playworld in addition to running in the circulars of retail chains like Bradlee's, Venture, and even rocery stores like Osco. (I posted some additional Robotix ads from many of these stores at the Robofacial Bookocalypse.)
GemCo December 9, 1985

BETWEEN A BRONT AND A HARD PRICE
This Gemco ad illustrates why Robotix wasn't as collector friendly as the other action figure lines it was marketed alongside. Jetfire up top was the highest price point Transformer in 1984, with a regular retail of anywhere from $25-$30. But spending that much only got you the lowest priced Robotix set. Marketing Robotix as a more traditional action figure line was like asking people to collect only the most expensive Transformers. So imagine watching the cartoon as a kid and wanting multiple Robotix sets because of all the cool looking robots, only to find owning just four Robotix-Venturak, Tyrannix, Bront and Argus would end up costing more than $180 1985 dollars! (That's $360 2010 dollars.) The Toy King ad snippet below right is from November of 1986 when the popularity of the line at retail was on the decline and stores were beginning to liquidate their Robotix stock. Even with discounts of $15-$30 off regular retail they were still on the expensive side for action figures, but those are pretty good prices for motorized construction sets with so many pieces.
SHOW NOTES OF THE PODCASTALYPSE
- The hunt for Robotix #1
- There's enough 1985 to last a lifetime
- BREAK-Robotix Commercial
- The robotastic aspects of Herb Trimpe's career
- BREAK-Robo Force Commercial
- Did Paul Stanley sing the Robo Force commercial promo?
- The beastification of Robo Force
- Fangar line art in a newspaper ad (and Mary Fury & Deena Strong, too)
- The case for the cases of Robo Force asst 48273
- Live by the grocery store ad, die by the grocery store ad
- You better go and cry now
- NOW BACK TO ROBOTIX
- My homogenized Hasbro childhood
- My massive abyss of Robotix unknowledge
- 80s attempts to combine robots with construction sets
- Milton Bradley's reputation before Robotix
- Colin's Robotix introduction
- Colin's disappointment with owning the non-cool Argus box
- Robotix on the secondary market
- The 99 cent Argus on eBay
- The evolution of the line
- Robotix concepts preceding similar ones in Transformers
- New Robotix still being sold online
- The high price points of the original line
- Toylines that start with one backstory and change it later
- ROBOSKULL WAS BUILT FOR ME
- Star Brigade, Star Command, Legion of Power, Bionicle and other Robotixish lines
- Robotics and Things Robotix Dog
- Toyline attempts to explain sentient robots with human pilots
- Logical inconsistency in Robotix cartoon
- MAJOR ROBOTIX CARTOON SPOILER
- What if we had Robotix conventions?
- Herb Trimpe fleshing out the Robotix universe
- Asking Peter Cullen about character motivations in Rainbow Brite
- Why can I haz Michael McConnohie at conventions?
- Another Robotix-tastic podcastalypse in the future
- Robot Japan Summit February 18th
- Don't Rocket Punch your friends!
Labels:
Robo Force,
Robotix,
The Roboplastic Podcastalypse
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